3. Andy Warhol
What about Andy Warhol? How did you meet him?
I think the first time I really met him was at Studio 54
. Steve introduced me. But I saw Andy around for years; he used to go to a gay bar, where downstairs everybody was doing crazy things; people were sitting on bath tubs; it was really disgusting. Upstairs there was a dance floor and Andy was there, every time I went, he was there, standing just like this and just watching. In 1968 or 1969 I moved in with my brother, and Robin and me painted Andy’s Marilyn Monroe on the wall, so we were very aware of his stuff. We used to go see his movies, like Trash
(1973); ‘’ you don't know life until you fuck death in the gallbladder’’. It was wild stuff.
How did you perceive his art?
I loved his art, but there was a lot of it, commercial.
You think he’s overestimated?
No. I don’t think so. But do you know who Richard Bernstein
I don’t think so.
Nicky: Richard Bernstein
painted all those photographs. Andy would say I want this, this and this, and Richard would actually paint it. Richard pretty much did the Andy’s Interview magazine
. Andy was inspired by other people and took from their stuff, but I don’t think he was overrated; I think he was innovative, but commercial. His art was everywhere; you would see it everywhere. In the 60s there was Peter Max
, it was everywhere back then, but you see any of his work now? No. But Andy’s stuff lived on. So there’s something about it that is a step above other thing.